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Atheist Bible Study 1: Genesis
RE: Atheist Bible Study 1: Genesis
(November 19, 2018 at 1:05 pm)Drich Wrote: Actually when asked what are the greatest commandment Jesus Himself responded....


Actually, christianity has been so far removed from Jesus that it no longer represents or has any claim to love.
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RE: Atheist Bible Study 1: Genesis
(November 19, 2018 at 12:50 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Christianity is based upon the vicarious redemption of mans soul through the torture and murder of some better guy.  

This is not love, this is base and disturbing self interest.

If one willing subjected himself through that torture and murder to save everyone else, you in your hard heart can not see an act of love? That is all I can see. it also spurs me to do more for you than I normally would as more was done for me than what I could ever ask. through love through agape' I inturn do more, to take the extra step to walk this next year with you all, because of the love i was shown.

There is no self intrest here. I make no money I make no record of victories and or losses I am simply here to show the support and love I was shown when I was in a similar spot.
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RE: Atheist Bible Study 1: Genesis
(November 19, 2018 at 1:05 pm)Drich Wrote:
(November 19, 2018 at 12:47 pm)Kit Wrote: Only completely gullible idiots find christianity to be based on love.

Actually when asked what are the greatest commandment Jesus Himself responded Love your lord God with all of your being and your neighbor as yourself.. in these two commands all of the laws of the prophets are full filled.

The demi gods success rate appears to be 50/50, at best...by reference to the above. You could flip a coin and get advice just as competent.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Atheist Bible Study 1: Genesis
even if I think your "gay bologna" screen name needs to be heavily ridiculed

(November 19, 2018 at 1:13 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:
(November 19, 2018 at 1:05 pm)Drich Wrote: Actually when asked what are the greatest commandment Jesus Himself responded Love your lord God with all of your being and your neighbor as yourself.. in these two commands all of the laws of the prophets are full filled.

The demi gods success rate appears to be 50/50, at best...by reference to the above.  You could flip a coin and get advice just as competent.

examples?

(November 19, 2018 at 1:08 pm)Kit Wrote:
(November 19, 2018 at 1:05 pm)Drich Wrote: Actually when asked what are the greatest commandment Jesus Himself responded....


Actually, christianity has been so far removed from Jesus that it no longer represents or has any claim to love.

which is why I focus on no specific brand of 'christianity' but the bible and what it teaches about Jesus and God.
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RE: Atheist Bible Study 1: Genesis
(November 19, 2018 at 1:13 pm)Drich Wrote: even if I think your "gay bologna" screen name needs to be heavily ridiculed

Surely, somewhere in your family background, there was at least one Irishman, no?

I agree with Boru. It's a good name change.
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RE: Atheist Bible Study 1: Genesis
Quote:then why is christianity set apart as freedom from the law?

It would take a xhristard to believe such fucking nonsense.
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RE: Atheist Bible Study 1: Genesis
(November 19, 2018 at 1:12 pm)Drich Wrote:
(November 19, 2018 at 12:50 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Christianity is based upon the vicarious redemption of mans soul through the torture and murder of some better guy.  

This is not love, this is base and disturbing self interest.

If one willing subjected himself through that torture and murder to save everyone else, you in your hard heart can not see an act of love? That is all I can see. it also spurs me to do more for you than I normally would as more was done for me than what I could ever ask. through love through agape' I inturn do more, to take the extra step to walk this next year with you all, because of the love i was shown.

There is no self intrest here. I make no money I make no record of victories and or losses I am simply here to show the support and love I was shown when I was in a similar spot.

Actions are by their intentions.  I can do a similar act, but it might be tainted by ignorant intentions.

As for God he has the highest and noblest and most loving of intentions.  A humanization of sacrifice comes nothing close to his love.

It's better for us to rely on his love and call the non-human God state of being, then a human incarnation of God, because the latter is limited even if we were to give incarnation as a rational possibility.

The act of accepting God's absolute forgiving nature, takes one to love God and know that he wishes to fix his servants corruption by them turning to him sincerely and seeking his forgiveness by regretting their past actions.

The only thing is God sometimes emphasizes on his punishment with his forgiveness, so that we don't deceive ourselves and become perpetual sinners.

Most people who believe in God take advantage of God's compassionate and forgiving nature, myself included. It's the hardest thing not to.

So how to stop sinning when he constantly forgives? Love eventually has to submit to God and accept his glory and light in the soul, that he is worthy of obedience regardless of personal interest.

Although all striving at the end is for ourselves, and whoever does good, almost always does it for their own benefit,  at the end, the highest submission is when we let go of all personal interest, and go by "my life and death is for God the Lord of the Worlds".

As noble as Zeratuls "my life for Aiur" sounds, when we truly don't obey God for our own benefit, but out of sheer love and don't hope for our forgiveness over others, but love his creation as much as us, with no concept of us being more important, till, that truth is suited in the heart, the devil can influence us and corrupt our intentions in all our actions.

It's like the water temple where Link fights his dark self in Zelda ocarina of time, the purification temple at the end is all about defeat the mirror intention in all our actions, the one from the false and dark self of Iblis, that rules humanity to this day.

Jesus let himself appear to be killed, by going on the cross and what not, only to come back, and sacrificed his whole life for the sake of God and allowed people to do what they did to him for the sake of God, because he knew it would be a sign of guidance, and that it would display that God can protect any servant and keep them alive, even if by the general rules, a soul would have departed and died, he came back.

To me that is proof he never died, but it appeared like that. So it was a feign death as the video games put it.

Wishing you well and peace.
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RE: Atheist Bible Study 1: Genesis
Jesus feigned death for your sins...lol. There's a 60 sec cd on that, unless you spec beast mastery.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Atheist Bible Study 1: Genesis
Quote:I make no money I make no record of victories and or losses

Lucky for you.  If you had to rely on your "victories" you'd starve to death.
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RE: Atheist Bible Study 1: Genesis
(November 19, 2018 at 1:24 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Jesus feigned death for your sins...lol.  There's a 60 sec cd on that, unless you spec beast mastery.

Haha something like that, he allowed it to be appear like people can kill him, only to surprise them that he didn't leave the world and is still alive, in which by all standards of humans he should have died and been gone.

Then God took him to higher realm in which he will return one day, to help restore the world to balance and the justice promised to the world.
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