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Alien Abductions & Encounters, and UFO Sightings
#21
RE: Alien Abductions & Encounters, and UFO Sightings
Well, at our weekly card games Sasquash or, Harry as we like to call him, Pegasus, Nessie and I often deliberate over the ludicrousness of aliens and the flying discs.
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#22
RE: Alien Abductions & Encounters, and UFO Sightings
A few years ago i was walking home on a really nice summers evening and i saw orange light appearing from the horizon, they seemed to move fairly quickly,

At first i thought they were helicopters but made no sound, then after a few minutes there were too many of them (unless someone had a lot of helicopters), the really weird thing i noticed was that as they got overhead they seemed to just fade away and disappear, I don't mind confessing it was a really odd and slightly frightening experience. I got home and looked at the local news.. nothing. Then the next morning on a local forum they were talking about it, it was in fact an event where they released lots of Chinese lanterns miles away.

That of course explained everything, the colour, that they were silent, and vanished more or less at the same spot overhead (as the flame burnt out).

I recalled the feeling I had experienced when faced with something unfamiliar and the internal battle I had that although I believed there was a good rational explanation even while it was happening, that our minds always struggle when we can't identify something we are witnessing. To me it's easy to see how people who don't have a grounding in being critical, or minds that immediately run to the 'supernatural' as an explanation can get fooled very quickly and easy when having experiences they cannot explain.

(September 20, 2019 at 12:47 pm)EgoDeath Wrote:
(September 19, 2019 at 7:31 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: As far as I’m aware I have never encountered or abducted an alien.

I have seen flying objects in the distance that I could not identify.

Was it a bird?

Was it a plane?

Was it some clown in a cape?

I don’t know. Pretty sure it wasn’t aliens, though.

Lol!

I wonder if atheists are less likely to see ghosts or UFOs... Hmm.

As a child i used to have spiritual experiences all the time ( I was raised a J.W.) , and later as a Christian i had what I thought were dreams and visions. Since being an atheist i still have dreams of course, but I can usually relate to them from bits of events thought the previous day or week, things I've seen on TV etc.

What i used to think were visions were in fact dreams and thoughts that I had in retrospect chained together manufactured in my own mind from what i knew or guessed to say what I wanted them to, or to make sense to me.

They are not god talking to me, they are me talking to me !!!
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
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#23
RE: Alien Abductions & Encounters, and UFO Sightings
Navy Confirms Existence of 'Unidentified' Flying Objects Seen in Leaked Footage

A Navy official has confirmed that recently released videos of unidentified flying objects are real, but that the footage was not authorized to be released to the public in the first place.

Thinking

Yall seen the videos in question?
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#24
RE: Alien Abductions & Encounters, and UFO Sightings
(September 20, 2019 at 6:14 pm)possibletarian Wrote: A few years ago i was walking home on a really nice summers evening and i saw orange light appearing from the horizon, they seemed to move fairly quickly,

At first i thought they were helicopters but made no sound, then after a few minutes there were too many of them (unless someone had a lot of helicopters), the really weird thing i noticed was that as they got overhead they seemed to just fade away and disappear, I don't mind confessing it was a really odd and slightly frightening experience.  I got home and looked at the local news.. nothing. Then the next morning on a local forum they were talking about it, it was in fact an event where they released lots of Chinese lanterns miles away.  

That of course explained everything, the colour, that they were silent, and vanished more or less at the same spot overhead (as the flame burnt out).

I recalled the feeling I had experienced when faced with something unfamiliar and the internal battle I had that although I believed there was a good rational explanation even while it was happening,  that our minds always struggle when we can't identify something we are witnessing.  To me it's easy to see how people who don't have a grounding in being critical, or minds that immediately run to the 'supernatural' as an explanation can get fooled very quickly and easy when having experiences they cannot explain.

Yeah and this is where I have gotten frustrated with people: in trying to explain to them that seeing something you do not understand does not mean you leap to the most fantastical explanation you can think of, i.e. aliens, ghosts, etc. I once had a coworker who was a hardcore conspiracy guy and was very much into the 9/11 truther movement and aliens and a bunch of other stuff.

Once, in a heated debate (I learned to not bring these subjects up after this) about 9/11, and he seriously quoted abovetopsecret.com as a legitimate news source. I shook my head in disbelief and basically ended the conversation there. One of our older coworkers looked on, also in disbelief, who was earlier in the day also trying to explain to him why the government probably had nothing to do with 9/11 (he was a Vietnam War vet) and our conspiratorial coworker dismissed him too.

I actually got along well with the guy outside of the topic of conspiracies. Oh well.

(September 20, 2019 at 6:14 pm)possibletarian Wrote: As a child i used to have spiritual experiences all the time ( I was raised a J.W.) , and later as a Christian i had what I thought were dreams and visions. Since being an atheist i still have dreams of course, but I can usually relate to them from bits of events thought the previous day or week, things I've seen on TV etc.

What i used to think were visions were in fact dreams and thoughts that I had in retrospect chained together manufactured in my own mind  from what i knew or guessed to say what I wanted them to, or to make sense to me.

They are not god talking to me, they are me talking to me !!!

Totally! Earlier I took a nap and had a dream that a ghost dragged me to the end of my bed. In the dream, I wasn't scared, but I just sort of thought it was weird that something like that would happen because I don't believe in ghosts. When I woke up, I realized it was a dream, obviously. But if I were more inclined to believe in paranormal experiences I might have convinced myself that what happened really happened and that my house is haunted.

I really wish more people would watch QualiaSoup's video on open-mindedness. It explains the concept much better than I ever could.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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#25
RE: Alien Abductions & Encounters, and UFO Sightings
(September 20, 2019 at 9:00 pm)Aegon Wrote: Navy Confirms Existence of 'Unidentified' Flying Objects Seen in Leaked Footage

A Navy official has confirmed that recently released videos of unidentified flying objects are real, but that the footage was not authorized to be released to the public in the first place.

Thinking

Yall seen the videos in question?

"UFO" became the vogue when "little green men in flying saucers" caused too many giggles.
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#26
RE: Alien Abductions & Encounters, and UFO Sightings
(September 20, 2019 at 9:00 pm)Aegon Wrote: Navy Confirms Existence of 'Unidentified' Flying Objects Seen in Leaked Footage

A Navy official has confirmed that recently released videos of unidentified flying objects are real, but that the footage was not authorized to be released to the public in the first place.

Thinking

Yall seen the videos in question?

From the article itself:

Quote:Gradisher would not speculate as to what the unidentified objects seen in the videos were, but did say they are usually proved to be mundane objects like drones—not alien spacecraft.

“The frequency of incursions have increased since the advents of drones and quadcopters,” he says.
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#27
RE: Alien Abductions & Encounters, and UFO Sightings
(September 21, 2019 at 12:56 pm)Grandizer Wrote:
(September 20, 2019 at 9:00 pm)Aegon Wrote: Navy Confirms Existence of 'Unidentified' Flying Objects Seen in Leaked Footage

A Navy official has confirmed that recently released videos of unidentified flying objects are real, but that the footage was not authorized to be released to the public in the first place.

Thinking

Yall seen the videos in question?

From the article itself:

Quote:Gradisher would not speculate as to what the unidentified objects seen in the videos were, but did say they are usually proved to be mundane objects like drones—not alien spacecraft.

“The frequency of incursions have increased since the advents of drones and quadcopters,” he says.

Those cutting edge drones really breaking physics these days I guess.
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#28
RE: Alien Abductions & Encounters, and UFO Sightings
While I'd really like to believe it's possible that aliens have visited us, mostly because it sounds cool, I have no real reason to believe it's true. That a bunch of people have seen aircraft they couldn't identify means very little.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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#29
RE: Alien Abductions & Encounters, and UFO Sightings
(September 22, 2019 at 12:26 pm)Aegon Wrote:
(September 21, 2019 at 12:56 pm)Grandizer Wrote: From the article itself:

Those cutting edge drones really breaking physics these days I guess.

How did you determine they were "breaking physics"? Perhaps in that video, it was not a drone ... maybe. But let's not make an argument from ignorance.
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#30
RE: Alien Abductions & Encounters, and UFO Sightings
(September 20, 2019 at 9:00 pm)Aegon Wrote: Navy Confirms Existence of 'Unidentified' Flying Objects Seen in Leaked Footage

A Navy official has confirmed that recently released videos of unidentified flying objects are real, but that the footage was not authorized to be released to the public in the first place.

Thinking

Yall seen the videos in question?

Yes!  What a cool mystery! Listening to the pilots gave me a little chill.  What do you think? Russian spy technology?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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