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Evangelicals, Trump and a Quick Bible Study
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RE: Evangelicals, Trump and a Quick Bible Study
(September 16, 2020 at 3:52 pm)Drich Wrote:
(September 16, 2020 at 12:46 pm)Sal Wrote: Donald Morgan's old compiled list is still there on infidels.org

https://infidels.org/library/modern/dona...tions.html

Most of them are due to self-defeating errors in logic as a result of contradictory statements, IOW internal error. The other type is sequence of events that display incongruity (B happening before A, when sequentially A happens before) resulting in chronological error. There are also inconsistencies, but those are from a lack of clarification or missing information.
noice.. if your going to be a lazy poc the so can i.. here is that same list answered : https://biblestrength.org/Infidels meaning this group show how donalds list are nothing but 1/2 truths and intentional misrepresentations based on poor translation. so now that that list is out of the way do you have something else?
Why should I entertain your sophistry?

I guess you only googled an analog of the string "response to Donald Morgan's compiled list of Bible contradictions" and without reviewing its very lacking explanation of those Bible contradictions, and without reviewing or even opening what the article on biblestrength.org said, you just copy+pasted it. I'm not surprised that you didn't quote a much stronger apologia from https://answersingenesis.org/contradicti...the-bible/ except they use the same ad hoc rationalizations present in biblestrength.org. But how could you, I'm convinced you didn't read what you linked. I also know why ... ask me how I know ...

You see, @Drich, I'm convinced you do not care what the evidence is for your position, that is merely circumstantial. You have a conviction, and work backwards in an attempt to support whatever faith you have to support that conviction. Be it lies, situational awareness imparted by that conviction (such as using an emotive basis behind your correlation (e.g. your masturbation about Nazis being atheistic)), or just simply force and threat of violence/damnation, you do not care what the evidence says. You can't. Your faith prohibits you from to the possibility for change, to doubt.
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#22
RE: Evangelicals, Trump and a Quick Bible Study
(September 15, 2020 at 5:57 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The vile hateful crap is what differentiates them, unfortunately.  They can't dump it and still be christians, they'd just be people who thought you should take your neighbor a pie every once in awhile and throw a few cans of soup at the local pantry.

The bad shit in christian belief is not a bug, it's The feature.

I thought soup was for throwing at cops? Huh
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#23
RE: Evangelicals, Trump and a Quick Bible Study
See i knew you wanted to play!

(September 16, 2020 at 2:51 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Abortion isn't murder and a fetus isn't a being where the social contract would apply. Your own Bible says as much, though I defer to science. 
Quote:again new testament new law.
So are you saying the OT got it wrong? Was that not also penned under the influence of Yahweh? Or did Yahweh change his mind? And please cite for me in the NT where it now says "life begins at conception". 
that does not follow.. does abortion only happen at conception? in west virginia abortion can happen after birth. why would it need to focus on life beginning at conception when you monsters are killing babies after they leave the womb? show me where a completely viable/ can live outside the mother is not considered murder. in fact I can look up the statute but if a woman is carring a baby she intends on keeping and it has a heart beat it is considered murder if someone where to kill that baby. so again show me where killing a fully developed baby is not murder as i have demonstrated it is a abortion practice.

Quote:Same question as before. Are you saying the OT is wrong? 
not for OT jews. Christians are not Ot jews. even jews today are not OT jews nor do they nor can they live by the law you are too foolish to not apply to people in a completely different religion.

Quote:So the OT is wrong then?
not for ot jews. NT christian live by the law in it's completed form. which boils down to 2 laws. so no need to itemize.

sanctified marriage is the key.

Quote:Show me chapter and verse where it says "one man and one woman"
are you lying to yourself and me or too stupid to make the distinction i made fit your understanding? sanctified does not mean one man one woman intellectually dishonest paladin.. it means man and woman, numbers of man and women can vary. in the ot it was ok to take on as many wives as yo could afford. in the nt paul limited this to one man and one woman in 1 cor 7. as the discussion of justifying homosexuality comes down to sanctification defined as man and woman not numbers of husbands to wives is unimportant, as the different sexes are being highlighted. which again is narrowed down to one man and one woman in nt times. either way this still excludes any type of homosexual relationship as same sex partners can not find a sanctified example of same sex marriage. your argument is over sport. don't make me drag you through the mud. if you have questions ask them nicely.

1/2 truth= whole liar. man and woman appears in the bible as being the only case for a marriage god approves.

Quote:But not ONE man and ONE woman. Dance around that point all you like. 

apples and oranges/misdirection/red herring. because the subject matter is homosexual marriage, not number of spouses. to which despite the number of women david was married to at one time the only relevant point to this discussion of gay marriage is all his partners were born female.. Hence sanctified marriage.

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Is there some part of the word "ONE" that you find confusing? 
Quote:because he could not afford your morality, because he could not risk survival of his whole clan on stupid principles people who live so disconnected from the way he lived they can not even imagine a time where his choices were for the good of the species...

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Sounds like you're making feeble excuses.
sound to me like you are not prepared to deal with the reality of life in the bronze age. that you can't fathom a time where the survival of the species was in question. a time where man bearly is rising above the rest of the animal kingdom.

Quote:The ancient Greeks managed to practice monogamy at the same time in history.
no they didn't you off about 1000 years, not to mention the greeks settled into city states while the jews were more or less nomadic. Egypt was the primary super power when Gods people took on more than one wife.
Quote: Poverty and infant mortality didn't magically go away by the time Jesus arrived on the scene.
no one in jesus time took on more than one wife. again paul in 1 cor 7 limits the church to one man one woman, you are arguing if your assumption was correct. i showed you where it is not.

Quote: And if monogamy was so important to Yahweh, he could have created better conditions in the first place. He is responsible for the environment, after all, given how he made it. 
monogamy is possible if a man is married to several women. all he need do is keep sex with in the confines of a sanctified marriage. which again is limited to one man and one woman in the new testament. one man several women for the wealthy.
Quote:i think you need to pull the B/S out of your own eye/what is keeping you from seeing the obvious truth, before you worry about the evangelicals.
do yourself a favor don't think.. because you are way wrong and all your assumptions are based on bad or incomplete information. you need to restudy this era as you don't even have the right time period which obliterates your credibility here. look to absorb and learn before you make judgements.
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The obvious truth is that we live in a natural world governed by predictable laws best understood through science and reason. As for your Bible, I read what's on the page.
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but you do not use common sense to segregate the two religions represented in the text. this gives you a false understand of both religions. then you run off half cocked to a straw man fight you create for your own victory.

(September 16, 2020 at 6:23 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: [quote='Drich' pid='1998953' dateline='1600285937']
Dude you know as well as anyone here i can be very respectful and i work hard to provide you with the information you all pretend to seek. it's the atheist pride and demand to be on top.. that i help cut back with a good dose of humility. 
Drich, this is going to be hard for you to hear - but I gaurantee you that no one here thinks that you can be respectful or work hard, or provide anyone with any information that anyone is seeking.

None of that is in you.  That's not what you're here for.
[/quote] what is really going to be a blow to your ego is what some of you do on line in public forum is often a persona constructed to the benefit of other atheist.. i have had more than one of you pm and or email me questions, asking for advise and or spiritual guidance on family and personal matters. i have even been put in contact with other family members who are have a spiritual crisis of faith. not to mention people here had me help them sort out their own spiritual issues. why else would i keep coming back if no one ever seem to benefit from me being here? get one of your mod buddies to check my pms there is a huge list of people even those who you would never once ask me anything on the side.

Quote:your fate is between you and god. don't assume one way or the other as there is not a set bar rather you honestly working the best with what you had. this might not translate into riches/good job in heaven, but it doesn't automatically mean hell either.

2-3 times a month.. kicked in teeth is better than hell. "If your hand causes you to sin cut it off as it is better to enter into the kingdom with one hand than it is to enter hell whole." but seriously.. i say that to help you all to manage your pride.. most of you find it hard to do a victory lap when i take the bite out of your arguments.
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More like between god and god.  I don't get to tell a god what to do with it's broken human vessels.  I think that it would be better if you didn't imagine other people going to hell, or kicking their teeth in. 

Did christianity do this to you?  What...exactly, do you think my argument is...?  I only have the one, this should be easy.
i shared this before.. i experienced hell https://atheistforums.org/thread-15622.html my biggest take away was the torture of what if.. what if i only knew the truth, because i like many of you back then had my own idea my own christianity narrative which was heavily full of conjecture and out right bs.. which made me hate god. when sent to hell as bad as the initial shock was the idea of an eternity in hell with the question "what if i only knew the truth" was going to destroy me and my sanity. again i was ok with the call as i knew what i had done deserved hell but the what if i knew would i have done those things is what made the experience unbearable. so for those who have no intention of salvation, my gift to you is to remove the what if.. that way you can accept your fate repent and move on to oblivion/the second death..

(September 16, 2020 at 6:45 pm)Sal Wrote: [quote='Drich' pid='1998953' dateline='1600285937']
noice.. if your going to be a lazy poc the so can i.. here is that same list answered : https://biblestrength.org/Infidels meaning this group show how donalds list are nothing but 1/2 truths and intentional misrepresentations based on poor translation. so now that that list is out of the way do you have something else?
Why should I entertain your sophistry?

I guess you only googled an analog of the string "response to Donald Morgan's compiled list of Bible contradictions" and without reviewing its very lacking explanation of those Bible contradictions, and without reviewing or even opening what the article on biblestrength.org said, you just copy+pasted it. I'm not surprised that you didn't quote a much stronger apologia from https://answersingenesis.org/contradicti...the-bible/ except they use the same ad hoc rationalizations present in biblestrength.org. But how could you, I'm convinced you didn't read what you linked. I also know why ... ask me how I know ...

You see, @Drich, I'm convinced you do not care what the evidence is for your position, that is merely circumstantial. You have a conviction, and work backwards in an attempt to support whatever faith you have to support that conviction. Be it lies, situational awareness imparted by that conviction (such as using an emotive basis behind your correlation (e.g. your masturbation about Nazis being atheistic)), or just simply force and threat of violence/damnation, you do not care what the evidence says. You can't. Your faith prohibits you from to the possibility for change, to doubt.
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look smoothie https://biblestrength.org/Infidels shows me a list "jim merrit's list" which looks to be 50 pages long.. if you like ill copy and paste it for you. the whole point of me copy and pasting and not looking was because you made a similar effort. as there is no way you researched personally every one of the claims on your website. now because you took the half assed way out and let a website do the thinking for you i demonstrated how one only need answer someone like you. your a half asser.. you put in no effort. if i were to put in a 100% effort you would just bail. so why waste my time when you yourself could not even be bothered to go through your list and pick a few out that made sense to you? you did an info dump and ran. why is any more expected from me?
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#24
RE: Evangelicals, Trump and a Quick Bible Study
Because you're a liar @Drich.

First you said it was a response to Donald Morgan's list. It isn't. It's a response to Jim Meritt's list of contradictions. That's how I know.

I expect your lengthy rationalization and backpedaling in your next reply to this ...
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RE: Evangelicals, Trump and a Quick Bible Study
Oh god, he's droning on about his weekend getaway to hell, and secret pm converts..... again. Let's test the power of prayer in real time.

Still working on what my argument is? I can wait.
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RE: Evangelicals, Trump and a Quick Bible Study
(September 17, 2020 at 11:03 am)Drich Wrote: See i knew you wanted to play!

in west virginia abortion can happen after birth. why would it need to focus on life beginning at conception when you monsters are killing babies after they leave the womb? 

Normally, I look up counter-claims in a debate but I'm not going to bother and just go out on a limb and say that's bullshit. 

Quote:not for OT jews. Christians are not Ot jews. even jews today are not OT jews nor do they nor can they live by the law you are too foolish to not apply to people in a completely different religion.

Interesting. So Yahweh believes in relative morality then? That some values are right for one culture and wrong for another? Don't Christians normally accuse atheists of harboring a belief in relative morality? 

Quote:are you lying to yourself and me or too stupid to make the distinction i made fit your understanding? sanctified does not mean one man one woman intellectually dishonest paladin.. it means man and woman, numbers of man and women can vary.

You need to talk to your fellow Christians then and explain to them that they've got it all wrong. Evangelicals have been harping about "ONE man and ONE woman" as the definition of traditional, sanctified marriage. These are their words, not mine. 

Quote:in the ot it was ok to take on as many wives as yo could afford. in the nt paul limited this to one man and one woman in 1 cor 7.

More relative morality. 

Quote:sound to me like you are not prepared to deal with the reality of life in the bronze age. that you can't fathom a time where the survival of the species was in question. a time where man bearly is rising above the rest of the animal kingdom.

Once again, who's fault was that? Yahweh is the one that created this world. If "one man and one woman" was so important to him, he could have created an environment where that was possible. 

Quote:monogamy is possible if a man is married to several women

No, that's NOT monogamy by definition.

Quote:but you do not use common sense to segregate the two religions represented in the text. this gives you a false understand of both religions.

Is the OT part of the Bible or not? Did Yahweh, the same god, inspire the OT or not?
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#27
RE: Evangelicals, Trump and a Quick Bible Study
(September 17, 2020 at 2:27 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(September 17, 2020 at 11:03 am)Drich Wrote: See i knew you wanted to play!

in west virginia abortion can happen after birth. why would it need to focus on life beginning at conception when you monsters are killing babies after they leave the womb? 

Normally, I look up counter-claims in a debate but I'm not going to bother and just go out on a limb and say that's bullshit. 
you dont even know how deep the evil goes on your side.. that's the thing with infanticide... at somepoint someone in authority will stop lying to himself about what abortion is, and will ask what is the difference between late term and post term abortion...
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/virginia...-own-state
https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-w...ld-proceed
“In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” Northam said. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.” in short the baby is born, and left to die due to exposure to cold temps/neglect/starvation after birth.. but this bill is based on the government nor any man being able to tell a woman what she can do with her body.. which i guess in liberal speak viable/birthed baby. the fact people want this option and it was even consider show how sheer evil has taken the hearts of those on the far left. this should never even be considered let alone voted on and signed into law.

Quote:Interesting. So Yahweh believes in relative morality then?
God does not believe in your idea of morality at all. morality is a standard based on the righteousness of men. or what the bible identifies as self righteousness. God's standard is that of righteousness. and true righteousness is different based on need and ability. which is why it was ok for some to do things others were forbidden to do. it is clear in scripture ie the parable of the talents and paul lesson about one body many parts speak about this in detail. basically, not all are held to the same standard. that is the primary give atonement provides. you didn't know this? maybe you oughta seek a more complete understanding before you judge others by what you mistake as god's standard.
Quote:That some values are right for one culture and wrong for another?
indeed. perfect example is the order to that allows the followers of christ to eat what was once unclean food, or even meat offered to idols.. for those who can understand and accept that God has made a provision that would allow them to eat unclean food they can do so. how ever for those who can not accept this teaching it is still a sin because in their hearts they think it i sin. further more those who have the stronger faith should not tempt the weaker brother by eating what the weaker brother sees as forbidden meat.. because again for the weaker brother it is a sin. (do you need book chapter and verse?)
Quote:Don't Christians normally accuse atheists of harboring a belief in relative morality? 
because those who know... know, and those who don't are not in a position to teach this lesson yet.. Where you understanding of this religion fails is you think christianity is like judaism in that it is like all religions based on rules. the follows of rules pass the life test and move on to eternal reward while the others are punished. nothing is further from the truth. this was true for the jew and those who established the rc church and for the modern rc church but if you actually read the bible. bible based christianity is the exact opposite. no where in the nt are we given books of nt law.. do not confuse the church with the body of believer the bible describes. the church/religion is full of law. the bible contains two that sum up or completely represent all of ot law. these two law govern mature nt christians. these two laws basically teach love god the best you can and you fellow man the best that you can and the rest will be filled in by christ. most of your idiots are 1/2 way there. if you would only bend the knee to god we could be brothers as most of you have the second command already down. once you understand the new covenant/two new laws for christianity you begin to see sin differently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYJ5Io59gU&t=5s 10 mins and you will never look at sin heaven hell the same again.. it explains why good people goto hell. and how the exwicked get a pass to heaven..

Quote:You need to talk to your fellow Christians then and explain to them that they've got it all wrong.
you are again being obtuse. in the nt via 1 cor 7 we have one man one woman marriage spelled out.

Quote:Evangelicals have been harping about "ONE man and ONE woman" as the definition of traditional, sanctified marriage.
because as christians and not ot jews they are bound to one man one woman.
Now I will discuss the things you wrote me about. You asked if it is better for a man not to have any sexual relations at all. 2 But sexual sin is a danger, so each man should enjoy his own wife, and each woman should enjoy her own husband. 3 The husband should give his wife what she deserves as his wife. And the wife should give her husband what he deserves as her husband. 4 The wife does not have power over her own body. Her husband has the power over her body. And the husband does not have power over his own body. His wife has the power over his body. 5 Don’t refuse to give your bodies to each other. But you might both agree to stay away from sex for a while so that you can give your time to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not be able to tempt you in your weakness. 6 I say this only to give you permission to be separated for a time. It is not a rule.


Quote:More relative morality. 
again god is not bound by your rules of morality. what is ok for a man in situation a will be different for a man living in situation b. God is not an inflexible monster. he doesnt give us any more than what is possible for us to deal with...

Quote:Once again, who's fault was that? Yahweh is the one that created this world. If "one man and one woman" was so important to him, he could have created an environment where that was possible. 
which is why pre law/moses the rules were much much easier. and why now the law has made complete and even thoughts are judged.


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Is the OT part of the Bible or not? Did Yahweh, the same god, inspire the OT or not?
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bible means book of books or a collection of books. this collection is not a manual on how to worship the god contained in it. the bible catalogs the journey of the gospel/message of salvation and how righteousness needed to evolve into how salvation works today. for instance if you have a maintenance manual for 1964 to 1973 1 gen mustangs would anything from the 1964 section have anything to do with the 1973 mustang your working on? no but you can see the evolution of the car and maybe get an understanding of how/why they modified the car the way they did over that 9 year period. the same is true here. you understand of the bible and christianity is archaic at best. no wonder you hate god and seem to be hoplessly lost. all you need do to fix this is admit most of what you think is wrong and honestly seek out the truth.
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RE: Evangelicals, Trump and a Quick Bible Study
(September 17, 2020 at 3:45 pm)Drich Wrote: you dont even know how deep the evil goes on your side.. that's the thing with infanticide... at somepoint someone in authority will stop lying to himself about what abortion is, and will ask what is the difference between late term and post term abortion...
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/virginia...-own-state
https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-w...ld-proceed
“In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” Northam said. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”  in short the baby is born, and left to die due to exposure to cold temps/neglect/starvation after birth.. but this bill is based on the government nor any man being able to tell a woman what she can do with her body.. which i guess in liberal speak viable/birthed baby.  the fact people want this option and it was even consider show how sheer evil has taken the hearts of those on the far left. this should never even be considered let alone voted on and signed into law. 
Fox Noise lies. CNS is rated as a highly questionable news source. Reputable news sources please. 
Quote:again god is not bound by your rules of morality. what is ok for a man in situation a will be different for a man living in situation b. God is not an inflexible monster. he doesnt give us any more than what is possible for us to deal with...

I don't believe in "relative morality". I think relative morality is, in fact, amorality. Believing that morality is relative to the time and culture in which you live is essentially saying that morality is nothing more than a set of arbitrary rules, which is amorality. 

Instead of advocating for relative morality (amorality), your god could have done a better job of creating this world, set down a standard set of universal moral principles and made a world where living up to them was possible. Instead, according to your own words, your god opted for a shifting standard of morality based on time and culture. 

Your god is amoral and inconsistent and thus has no credibility in saying what is right or wrong. 
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RE: Evangelicals, Trump and a Quick Bible Study
(September 17, 2020 at 4:12 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(September 17, 2020 at 3:45 pm)Drich Wrote: you dont even know how deep the evil goes on your side.. that's the thing with infanticide... at somepoint someone in authority will stop lying to himself about what abortion is, and will ask what is the difference between late term and post term abortion...
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/virginia...-own-state
https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-w...ld-proceed
“In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” Northam said. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”  in short the baby is born, and left to die due to exposure to cold temps/neglect/starvation after birth.. but this bill is based on the government nor any man being able to tell a woman what she can do with her body.. which i guess in liberal speak viable/birthed baby.  the fact people want this option and it was even consider show how sheer evil has taken the hearts of those on the far left. this should never even be considered let alone voted on and signed into law. 
Fox Noise lies. CNS is rated as a highly questionable news source. Reputable news sources please. 
Quote:again god is not bound by your rules of morality. what is ok for a man in situation a will be different for a man living in situation b. God is not an inflexible monster. he doesnt give us any more than what is possible for us to deal with...

I don't believe in "relative morality". I think relative morality is, in fact, amorality. Believing that morality is relative to the time and culture in which you live is essentially saying that morality is nothing more than a set of arbitrary rules, which is amorality. 

Instead of advocating for relative morality (amorality), your god could have done a better job of creating this world, set down a standard set of universal moral principles and made a world where living up to them was possible. Instead, according to your own words, your god opted for a shifting standard of morality based on time and culture. 

Your god is amoral and inconsistent and thus has no credibility in saying what is right or wrong. 

Gov. Ralph Northam was speaking about foetuses which are non-viable or which have severe deformities and which go to full term and are birthed. He was speaking about the options then available to the family, eg palliatice care, surgery, long term care. The quote itself is accurate, but by faking the context of the quote Dripshit is putting words into Gov. Northam's mouth (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Northam#Abortion).

Typical par for the course for the liar Dripshit.
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RE: Evangelicals, Trump and a Quick Bible Study
They don't have anything else to run on, so they hope to make the election trump vs babykilling.

I can't wait to hear about all the economic anxiety this year, personally. Somehow, I don't think they've stopped being economically anxious in the past four.
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