Are UFO's and extraterrestrials real?

[Napoléon]

Actually Lucent I have researched the Nephilim myself and nowhere have I seen anyone say they were from another 'dimension'.

Well, Demons are extra-dimensional, from a spiritual plane of existence..the word Nephilim means "earth-born"..they were born on Earth..they aren't disembodied spirits, and whether they can traverse the material into the spiritual I don't know

Nephilim as a word is actually translated as "fallen ones". Often they are referred to as giants by those who study up on them, and yes they are spoken of in the bible as demons. HOWEVER the actual common conception of what the Nephilim are (from what I have seen) is that they are actually an extra terrestrial race who came down and tampered with human DNA, and cross bred with us at some point in time. Obviously this is bullshit but look up any videos or information on the Nephilim and this should be what you find out. Obviously as a Christian you are going to take the biblical interpretation of the Nephilim as literally 'demons', however I am actually more inclined to think the general concensus is that the Nephilim are extra terrestrials who are referred to as 'demons' because back then there were no other translations for aliens.

Luke 17:26

Just as it was in the days of Noah, so will it be in the days of the Son of Man.

Which seems to indicate that the Nephilim could return in the last days, since they were around in the days of Noah.

There is also a prophecy in Daniel about the last days:

And whereas you saw iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not join one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

Daniel 2:43

"They" seems to refer to the seed of Satan, and the Nephilim..since "they" are a different seed than the seed of man, and the seed of Satan is what created the nephilim. So there seems to be correlation between the last days and the nephilim.

Again, you seem to be taking the biblical view literally. From what I have read and seen of the Nephilim it is far more common that they are percieved as aliens, who were interpreted by the bible and and people of old as demons and fallen angels.

I would just like to say though either view on them is utterly rediculous. I just thought I'd point out that your reference to them as demons from another dimension might be incorrect.

[Ace Otana]

I think life on other worlds is hugely possible and most likely already reality. My stance on UFOs is simple, I don't know what they are, that's why they're called UFO ('U' - Unidentified!).
And....demons? Seriously? I won't be turning to you any time soon for answers on the unknown. Yeash!

If I spotted a disk like object when I'm flying, I'm sure as hell won't pick a bible to tell me anything, or say it's some kind of demon. I'd note the shape, it's speed, colour, size, diameter and leave it as unknown. We have an over active imagination, and controlling it is what will allow you to see things rationally. To jump to conclusions is to opt for foolishness.

[CoxRox]

I have studied the 'nephelim' etc, and the Bible seems to be the primary source of these 'beings' hence why Lucent and others understand them from the biblical perspective. The nephelim are said to be the offspring of the 'sons of God (fallen angels) and daughters of men'. They also are said to be giants, but that is not the meaning of the word 'nephelim'.

I watched the rest of the videos in the link Lucent provided. One thing that I learned, that was refreshingly 'new' to me, was that the Hebrew word translated 'serpent' or 'snake' in Gen 3, actually means 'the shining one'. Now, if we imagine Eve being 'visited' by a 'god' and being told things that seemed true, wouldn't that make more sense, than the 'talking snake' story that I sure couldn't 'swallow' hand on heart. I've emailed an ancient Hebrew site, to get clarification on this word, so not sure if this is right yet.

I don't know if 'aliens' whoever they are, are real but there's enough 'evidence' from 'respected' sources, to make me wonder what are these people experiencing?

One last point: maybe this alien stuff, IS the deception??

[frankiej]

the Hebrew word translated 'serpent' or 'snake' in Gen 3, actually means 'the shining one'.

It is just like Sauron and his angelic form

[The Grand Nudger]

No Cox, it wouldn't make more sense. These narratives are not authored by a people who had contact to any superior type of being, supernatural or alien. That the faithful would even attempt an ancient alien gambit is pathetic.

[CoxRox]

No Cox, it wouldn't make more sense. These narratives are not authored by a people who had contact to any superior type of being, supernatural or alien. That the faithful would even attempt an ancient alien gambit is pathetic.

Visititations from extra-terrestrial beings (angels) sound far fetched and unlikely, but it is a constant theme throughout the Bible. I am open to the 'narratives' being written by people who were in contact with God so to me, it does make more sense.

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the Hebrew word translated 'serpent' or 'snake' in Gen 3, actually means 'the shining one'.

It is just like Sauron and his angelic form

yes, that's where Tolkien most likely got the idea.

[The Grand Nudger]

There we have it, you are already prepared to believe the unbelievable. What could you possibly discover that would surprise you moving forward from this point?

It might be helpful to make something absolutely clear. These beings, that the ancient alien crowd are arguing for, are most definitely not gods. They invalidate every religious belief you may have ever held (or indeed still hold). What they are arguing for is not angels, or demons, or the servants of the lord, but a cut and dry alien civilization. A group of creatures that has leveraged our ignorance and superstition for some as-yet unknown purpose. It is only in this regard that they resemble our god-men, and even within this example we are much more clear on the purpose of our own traditional boogeymen. What, precisely, is a believer unwilling to believe in?

I have a sneaking suspsicion that it only "makes more sense" to you as long as it supports whatever you are already inclined to believe. There is no evidence for this line of argument. None. There is nothing but evidence to the contrary. This is top to bottom, from the position of the authors of the narrative you wish to champion all the way up to ET itself making visitations to our planet. Clinging to this is exactly equivalent to clinging to ID (in fact, ID is very often attached to these claims, as you have done here by proxy).

[Napoléon]

I don't believe the babble rhythm, but even I can see how a lot of the 'visitations from angels' could actually be influenced by ET visits. That's not to say I think it is in the slightest realistic to think that, but it could fit the scenario.

[The Grand Nudger]

The human imagination for "scenarios" is a subject standing on rock solid ground. I love sci fi as much as the next guy (fuck the next guy I like sci fi more). It would be awesome if little grey men had been visiting us in flying saucers etc. I think Stargate was a really fun movie (even the series had it's moments). Affording ridiculous arguments like these any respect just because something could be imagined? Not I.

They want respect for ancient aliens I want respect for Cu'Culain exactly as told.

[Napoléon]

They want respect for ancient aliens I want respect for Cu'Culain exactly as told.

I never said I gave it any respect. The nephilim are ridiculous.